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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: got a grouse today
Havent posted in a while tho I take my slingshot literally everywhere I go and shoot occasionally. Story of today:
Was out deer hunting with a rifle but packing my CK slingshot and came across a ruff grouse 12 yards out. Missed him once, a little high over the neck, then adjusted my hold for the next one and sent a .45 lead ball thru his upper wish bone area, breaking both sides and exiting. One inch higher and I would took his neck clean off I think.
At the thhhhhwap, he hunched and walked off the trail and down the hill, I could tell he was hurt bad so i didn't hurry, but reloaded and walked around a bush and peaked down the hill, he was there looking at me, 5 yards away. He turned around as i raised my slingshot, paused for a brief moment, focused on the back of his neck and sent the ball there. Put him down immediately tho it did not contact the neck direct enough and I had to thump his noggin once to end it for him. But it made me happy, a quick humane kill and dinner.
I pack this everyday in my little backpackt hat carries my wallet and other essentials so I get a shot off now and again but this one was just right.
Yes I do have a couple pics but do not know how to upload them here. do not have photobucket or anything like that yet. some instructions would fix that and then I'll put em on asap.
below the text box you'll see a tab that says "attach file". click on that, clikc browse, select the photo from your desktop and click upload and you're good to go. _________________ Catapult Kid
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: Re: got a grouse today
Morek1 wrote:
Put him down immediately tho it did not contact the neck direct enough and I had to thump his noggin once to end it for him. But it made me happy, a quick humane kill and dinner.
I'm sure, if you were the grouse, getting hit twice, being physically crippled and injured beyond movement, would not constitute "humane". "Humane", by definition, means quick and painless. I guarantee you, that grouse was NOT killed "humanely". All you did was put it out of it's misery and ended it's suffering... which YOU caused.
I am not siding with PETA or other "animal rights" group (which this post probably sounds like) but don't, for even a second, think you were "humane". Had you "thumped" it, after it was hit by someone ELSE, then I might consider than a humane end.
I'd much rather perfect my shot to the point that one hit would kill it immediately. And, if your story is a lesson to be learned, then I will strive to make every shot a clean kill. 1 shot = 1 kill. Every animal, shot for food or not, deserves to die without suffering. It's just human decency.
slingshots do not always prove a one shot one kill as with any hunting weapon a slight error can casuse a marginal hit and needs a follow up shot. Truely Instant kills (dead on impact of the projectile) are nearly impossible with anything other than a gun. They can be had with a cattie too, but must be placed in the head, and hitting a birds bobbing head is no easy feat. We as hunters try to make clean kills so the naimal does not suffer. We be as humane as we possibly can. For this being only your second post you are sure making a hell of an impression on the folks on this forum who hunt, and even those who do not. _________________ Catapult Kid
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as far as i can tell you know little to nothing about catapults and catapult hunting so who the hell are you to come on this forum with your arm chair expertise about what constitutes a humane kill? whenever anything dies there is pain involved.
if you think you're going to make instant one shot kills with a catapult every shot, you're badly mistaken. the same holds true for gun and bow as human error comes into play. as hunters we all strive for quick clean kills and the members of this forum have and show respect for the quarry we hunt. you owe morek an apology for your rude ass comments.
you say you're not siding with PETA? you sound like you are PETA. if you're not PETA and you're simply a newbie arrogant asshole, then shut your mouth and hang around boy, you might learn something.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: "a quick, humane kill..."
Wildman wrote:
hey luposian,
as far as i can tell you know little to nothing about catapults and catapult hunting so who the hell are you to come on this forum with your arm chair expertise about what constitutes a humane kill? whenever anything dies there is pain involved.
if you think you're going to make instant one shot kills with a catapult every shot, you're badly mistaken. the same holds true for gun and bow as human error comes into play. as hunters we all strive for quick clean kills and the members of this forum have and show respect for the quarry we hunt. you owe morek an apology for your rude ass comments.
you say you're not siding with PETA? you sound like you are PETA. if you're not PETA and you're simply a newbie arrogant asshole, then shut your mouth and hang around boy, you might learn something.
Morek stated the grouse was seriously injured with the first hit. Then, upon the second hit, he was downed, but still not dead. He had to "thump his noggin" to actually kill the animal. To claim it was a "quick humane kill" is beyond absurd. The word "humane" should never have been used. That was my objection, not the killing of the animal, itself.
I'v seen some of the pictures here, of the dead animals hit. Some are clean. Others are grusome. The worst pictures, I felt terribly sorry for the animal that lost it's life in such a bloody fashion.
The day may come when I have to use a Slingshot to bring down food, as I am against guns (I simply don't like 'em, and they're registered and confiscatable) and a pistol crossbow seems a bit too cumbersome and a rible crossbow is out of the question.
Maybe if Morek (and others here) used a laser-guided Slingshot (they're about $50-$60, I think, from SlingshotsUSA), he could actually make killing a grouse... truly "humane".
I appreciate the aiming skill of a hand-held manual weapon, but I'd rather over-compensate for human error and make sure the animal was dead right away than to have it suffer repeated shots and then get thumped on the head to end it's suffering.
I wonder if they make "razor projectiles" for slingshots. You know, something you shoot that just slices the animal's head clean off, at the neck. The animal would NEVER know what hit it! Sorta like a shuriken for slingshots or something.
Ok. We are a community of slingshot enthusiasts, and hunters. If you don't like what we do, then we couldn't give a flying f*ck if you took your winging ass elsewhere.
We all know modern slingshots are a GIMMICK. I can tell you don't know shit about slingshots, so as Wildman said, maybe stick around and you'll learn something. If this piece of laser junk is so accurate then why isn't it more respected. In the eyes of most respectable members on this forum alot of modern slingshots are useless.
Ok. We are a community of slingshot enthusiasts, and hunters. If you don't like what we do, then we couldn't give a flying f*ck if you took your winging ass elsewhere.
We all know modern slingshots are a GIMMICK. I can tell you don't know shit about slingshots, so as Wildman said, maybe stick around and you'll learn something. If this piece of laser junk is so accurate then why isn't it more respected. In the eyes of most respectable members on this forum alot of modern slingshots are useless.
A a born-again Christian, I respect the life of all animals enough to make sure that either God would make me a good enough shot to kill it immediately, or that I would do everything I could, by whatever means necessary ('high tech' nor not), to insure I could kill it quickly and... humanely.
I'd sooner use a huge projectile and blast it's head to smithereens and leave nothing but a bloody ragged stump where it's head used to be, then to plink it twice and THEN have to get close in to "end it" for the poor thing.
The animal is food, either way, but every animal is a creation of God. Ought we not respect that to insure, if we're going to eat the thing, to at least ensure it doesn't have to suffer beforehand?
Sure, it wasn't Morek's intent to make the animal suffer, but to say the '3 hit to kill' was "humane", is just (rhyme not intended)... insane.
My apologies for causing such a ruckus... I actually joined to find out if anyone had a manual technique for aiming (sighting), that could more or less insure the shot landed where it was intended (accuracy).
Now I've probably made everyone hate me so, I'll probably never get an answer... oh well... live and learn.
Hey lupy, I'm sure Morek finished the creature as quickly and humanely as the situation would allow. If you find the pictures here gruesome why don't you take a lazer guided trip back to fantasy land where you came from? You don't ned a catty to kill a tub of tofu or a box of veggie burgers so why don't you take your silly ass elsewhere.
Wildman
Just a quick note to let everyone know that luposian has been banned from this forum. I don't like having to do things like this but it's obvious that he is some sort of anti as his second post was problematic and it was obvious he was looking for a place to cause some trouble. This forum is for people who enjoy and share the sport of catapults and hunting with catapults, 'nuff said.
great shot morek! this specific forum reminds me about when i was banned off of the slingshotsoftheworld forum because i was a little excited about hunting and i talked too much about it, well that was my mistake for doing that, but surely i wont make that mistake again. But im happy this forum is just a bit more accepting of slingshot hunting.
well i guess i got banned cuz i was only 13 and i was a bit immature, but now i am 15 and have matured and will try my best to treat this whole forum and the people with respect, i learned from my mistake _________________ Dont be afraid, just be prepared for the worst.
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and have matured and will try my best to treat this whole forum and the people with respect, i learned from my mistake 